Electrical Safety Standards in Review

[f9]

Faulty equipment shouldn't be out there being used ...?
All people should be healty,but they are not.Practicaly it is not the same when you have bin of 20 leads,and bin of 600 leads on side.
It is not the same when you see build up and pull out and damage
in and out on the equipement.What is the point of tagging of good equipement?No point at all,exept the residue of glue from test tag.
But there is a need for clear enforcement for dealing with faulty equipement and we need prohibition tag .End of story.

[RoderickvG]

That is the biggest load of bulls*** I have seen in a long time.
There is NO EXCUSE for using faulty equipment, ever.
If you can't manage the job safely, find another occupation.

And that's the end of story!
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Think it is too expensive to hire a professional, wait until you hire an amateur

[beatsonic]

i cant believe that i just read that!
how much value do you put on your life, and more the point, on the life of your colleges and friends f9!?!
would you be prepared to stand infront of a coroner in court at the enquest into a death you caused and say "i thought it would be okay to use something i knew that was faulty"
there is just no excuse for using faulty equipment, ever!
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Craig
craig@illusionlighting.com.au
www.illusionlighting.com.au

[f9]

Your opinions just give strength for need of Prohibition tag.
I am more practical and realistic. I don’t fly in perfect world of super taggers. I have same concerns like you but I see practical solution in elimination of irresponsibility.
If anyone with authority put prohibition tag-end of story means out of service .What it is the point to mark good and tested equipment and don’t mark faulty one? No point at all.
No dodgy owners of electrical equipment, no sneaky managers with business interest before safety, no more lazy electrical personnel which can use spit for insulation. No more professional Test- taggers which forget the testing part and work on gluing part, dates, Permanent Markers, license numbers etc.
100% I am against using faulty equipment anyway and that is reason asking for prohibition tag with enforcement procedure so you guys cool down.
By the way ...don’t kill the messenger. If you want reality show
I can make easy. Just I will get one camera and go around some events and bring to screen real-deal. You can be shocked with reality.
Last week, I have seen test tag from person with electrical license who newer test the equipment. Someone else has done crime using his data. Names and license numbers can be found on web of Office of Fair Trading NSW and tags purchased from Electrical wholesalers. This is widespread in Exhibition industry from customers who bring their own equipment and don’t want to pay for Electrician to test their equipment. They have a tag and they have faulty equipment tagged.
You have to be Sherlock Holmes? Who can police this? No one!

[Don Allen]

From the draft 3760:

2.4 Action resulting from inspection and testing
2.4.1 Non-compliant equipment
Where in-service inspection or testing identifies equipment which fails to comply with the criteria given in this Standard, the equipment shall be appropriately labelled to indicate that the equipment requires remedial action and warn against further use. Such equipment shall be withdrawn from service. The choice of remedial action, disposal or other corrective action shall be determined by the owner or the person responsible for the safety of the site.

As the standard says, use an appropriate label such as http://www.unisa.edu.au/ohsw/images/outofservice.JPG

Cowboys have turned testing and tagging into a sham, but our industry is a responsible industry overall and is actively seeking to ensure unsafe electical equipment is taken out of service.

ALIA members have been actively involved in the update and evolution of 3760, so that it becomes part of an active safety environment, which includes continous visual inspections and a testing and tagging program.

The concept of assuming that every piece of electrical equipment is safe unless it has a prohibition label is a defective safety program as an untrained user has no way of knowing which item of equipment is included in your defective testing program.
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Lighting Designer and manufacturer of Theatre Electronics

[f9]

The concept of assuming that every piece of electrical equipment is safe unless it has a prohibition label ....is not my concept.Draft is
perfect.This way enforcement can be done with enforcement label
on identified faulty equipement.
I am not at all against mandatory periodical testing and tagging.

[GL]